Having had adequate time to ponder the horrendous decision last weekend, I think it’s time for the big names in our sport to clamour for reform in boxing. It’s what fans have wanted for years. We all enjoy a close fight where it’s arguable that either man could’ve won, and often, we’ll see an outcry from the losing faction’s supporters, but the almost unanimous gasp of shock when Bradley was announced the winner, and the subsequent cries of ‘fix’ and ‘robbery’, are not indicative of a close fight.
Myself and the majority of the boxing world didn’t even have the fight close. The Mayweather’s – ardent Pacquiao detractors – even had Pacquiao winning the fight easily. This is only the latest in a series of blunders caused by corruption, moronic judges and politics. Serious reform has to be considered by people high up in the sport, though it’s clear the powers that be will continue to ignore the fans while they have no figurehead. It’s time boxing gave them one.
I was somewhat disappointed that Pacquiao was so humble post-fight, though I guess that’s his demeanor. His usual post-fight response pointing towards Bob Arum was repeated as was the case, but with the awful decision (much worse than the favourable Marquez decision in my opinion), you would have thought it would evoke at least a semblance of emotion. Arum called foul play after the fight, but few believe his outburst since he now has another very marketable rematch and potential cash cow in Bradley if Pacquiao ‘loses’ again. Some who frequent the site will know I picked Bradley to win, but this is certainly not the way I envisioned it.
In the U.S.A, Senator Harry Reid and Senator John McCain have been trying to push new regulation and perhaps a national governing body; these alterations would be welcomed. If this were to happen, the rest of the world would have to follow suit. It might have taken such a monumental travesty to kick something like this into action, as Rios-Abril, which had arguably even worse judging, got little general outcry outside of hardcore fans.
The governing bodies, such as the WBO, WBC, WBA, and IBF, should have less political power, instead delegating rankings to a universal ranking body. Some of the sanctioning bodies, like the WBC, have been accused on favouring certain fighters; Chavez Jr. being one of them. He has long been allowed to deny Martinez his biggest and most lucrative fight. The WBO and state athletic commission have stated they will review the fight, but so often in obviously crooked fights, they do nothing and the judges are allowed to continue working big fights with no accountability .
The steps by McCain and company are in the right direction, but we need powerful figureheads like Oscar De La Hoya to go out there and be vocal. I have my skepticism about Bob Arum, but he won’t run Top Rank forever and the men behind the scenes must be trustworthy . We need all our sports figures to stand up and demand reform before fighting again. Mayweather, a man who has championed drug testing and fairness in boxing, should be one of these. Pacquiao, the man just shafted, should be also be included and not be content with allowing Arum to be his voice to America.
This has been going on far too long and boxing will suffer as a result. The interest in all but the biggest fights from the public will dwindle if fans are worried they’ll be watching a fix. It’s time for change.
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I had it very close and have no problem with the judges scores.
Since it was apparently such a lopsided thing, then Pacquaio should have no problem in the rematch.
I had it 117-111 for Manny, but honestly, I can see how people had it close.
Second half of the fight – Manny’s work rate had noticeably declined. He still landed the better punches but unfortunately the judges never rewarded him for it. They have instead rewarded the ‘ineffective aggression’ of Tim Bradley.
Bad decision but not as bad as has been made out in my opinion.
I had it 10 to 2, I don’t think Bradley landed much of significance and outside of the first two rounds his jab was ineffective and 117-111 is a pretty wide scorecard.
But I’m not here to argue about the fight, I had it the way I had it and according to 50 out of 53 boxing scribes Pacquiao won (http://www.csnbayarea.com/fight-sports/news/Bradley-beats-Pacquiao-media-disagrees-i?blockID=722544&feedID=2539)
and the majority had it very wide for Pacquiao. It isn’t the worst decision ever, but its bloody bad. Jerry Roth the man who had it for Bradley also gave Brandon Rios a 116-112 card against Abril, he shouldn’t have been allowed to judge another fight ever, let alone a super fight.
It’s not about how awful the decision was, but when decisions like this come along no one does anything about it. Especially when the judges have a track record in awfulness and are still allowed to continue.
Vegas judges are notorious for rewarding ineffective aggression. They have done so again. There needs to be a complete change in how judges score fights. This ineffective aggression has been getting rewarded for far too long.
John Keane from the UK is a judge who I believe scores fights the right way. Quality of punches landed over work rate. The way it should be.
If the sport of boxing had a John Keane like judge for every fight we would see less bad decisions.
Boxing is an opinionated sport though, so regardless of what way a decision goes there is always going to be some who disagree with it.
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Boxing authorities will never change their verdict they will never push for reforms but instead shall make an impression that bad decision in boxing whether it is political or corrupt in nature are all normal.
Making the sports more political rather than the display of athleticism.
In political psychology any opiate of the people must be controlled by the govt BOXING IS POLITICAL
Arum is simply not trustworthy,he is the AIDS OF BOXING WORLD.Boxing will never be the same again for as long as this Thief exist.
these judges are human that becomes rich because of mafia in boxing
Judges are just human, human makes mistakes but that doesn’t mean we can’t correct out mistake.
Therefore it should be allowed to reverse/change decision particularly for a fight this magnitude !
Boxing is dead
Timothy Bradley does NOT deserve a rematch. Timothy Bradley The First Ever OXY MORON Champion, he won by LOSING!
As Buffer say’s, ” And the Millions watching around the world” presenting the biggest robbery of them all” , Are they that shameless? Up to now millions really can not accept this travesty. Manny really is the epitome of what the word humble means. Everybody , please do something about this. The Judges really made us look fool, stupid, moron and finally , of no significance.
People are forgetting;
Manny is the champion, aggressor, superstar, better punch statistics, how can he lose.. Where is Bradley’s promise of a war?? after 2 wars, just the rest, he “boxed” – meaning run, jab, run. Had he engaged, he would have been knocked out..
The challenger has to take the title away.. obviously, bradley lost..!!
things had already been said thereby we should leave it at that… Manny Pacquiao had already said that while he believed 100% that he WON that match BUT the decision had already been and made and he respect the judges decisions… that is the essence of a true champion.. Mabuhay ka Manny Pacquiao!!!
the aftermath of the highway robbery in boxing will become a stigma to the boxing world NOT unless a reform should be made…
I do believe a conspiracy happened in that fight,smiggles bradley, the judges and NSAC,long before the fight started, the world has seen it, promoter bob arum is crying, fans are crying, every righteous writers and pro smiggles knows he lost and crying, and oh yes, it is the good old race factor again!! smiggles will not concede, judges don’t want to concede, nasac has anounced they will asked the judges after viewing second time and yet won’t back down, a farcifical conspiracy theory exist!! they made the people be suckered in this fight!!
** I think time has reached its peak point that all boxing organizations should agree, revise and change the rules in boxing. This 10 point system is so deceiving in the sense that a boxer in a particular round who throws a POWDER and DUST fuffing jabs more in numbers that slipped after being parried/blocked by an opponent just hitting the collar most of the time, is more magnificent to Judges’ eyes in contrast to a well defined occasional WOBBLING shots that a certain boxer had inflicted to the opponent who at that moment already having thoughts to wonderland and could not even find his ways where his corner’s at when round ends, still wins that round and gets that 10????. Horrifying and Unbelievable.. Just a thought though and make sense…. watdyatink fellas ?????**
think team pacquiao and team bradley has nothing to do with the results.. even uncle bob. what i think is behind all of this is the mafia and the judges.. because theres a ton of money under pacquiao, the mafia took its influence and buy the judges.. thats what i think and what i always think is right!!!!
If there is a wrong done, it ought to be righted. There is a saying that if one commits a mistake for the first time, this is understandable. The second time, forgivable. The third time, he is moron and stupid. The judge who makes mistake time and time again is an idiot and doesn’t deserve to stay on a minute longer.
I wasn’t counting punches but watching how they landed, and I can only conclude that Pacquiao did the most damage. Bradley’s punches were ineffective and mostly blocked by Pacquiao’s forearm. Since when was boxing judged on bravery and misses? Bring 10 kids together and have them watch the fight, and I’ll bet my wife all of them would pick Pacquiao, that’s how obvious it was.
Pacquiao, his promoter and the “alleged” mistakes by the judges should be used by the reformers to fight this, if there is really corruption or dirty business going on in boxing. The only thing Pacquiao and his promoter can do for now is to file an appeal against the decision and declare it as no contest or a draw. But other than that I can´t see any chances for them changing the decision, because “the wall” Keith Kizer and his disciples are to thick enough to bring down. It needs majority of bulldozers to break them down. These people always get away from their mistakes against fighters who don´t have the popularity like Pacquiao. If they can do it to Pacquiao they will do it to anyone easy, who cross them. This corruption will not go away completely, but they should create a governing body which make these corrupt people aware, that their dirty business will not work everytime.
What happened last saturday is a duplicate of the fight betwwen Delahoya and Floyd Jr. who also won by thin split decisioned. Oscar won the fight but the judges granted the verdict to Floyd.In my opinion it was Arum who planned everything to ODLH lost aiming for a rematch which will sell ppv more in a rematch. The idea of Arum is just simple, when a star fihter lost it will create controversy, controversy sell more in a rematch. But Floyd jr. declined for a rematch and retired and left Arum. What happened to Pacquiao is the same Arum knows it.If arum want Bradley to takeover Pacquiao as his cash it will be Arum big mistakes because Bradley is far behind of Pacquiao caliber if won.t sell.
No one can cleanup boxing as long as those promoter like Arum and others are ccrrupt. In LasVegas and else where in any kind of sports money rules. Remember this is Las Vegas which is so-called SIN CITY now wht do you expect. What happened in Las Vegas leave it in Las Vegas and let’s move on.
I watched the fight 4 times now. Pac won rounds 1-9, then relaxed through 10-12 as Bradley effectively jabbed and ran away while Pac uncharacteristically seemed to get tired. If Pac didn’t throw a punch from rounds 8-12, he still should’ve won. I have no idea how ANYONE in the world would have it even “close,” nor do I know how anyone would define Bradley as the “aggressor,” let alone an effective one, when he was on his backpedal once he tasted Pac’s power and injured his ankles trying to not get his ass KO’d. The punch-stats, the eye-catching power punches and flurries, the aggression and even the defense all favored the champion. Bradley couldn’t hurt Pacquiao to save his life!
Oh, and I find it funny how Floydhype.com has been on Manny’s jock since Mayweather’s incarceration, yet singing the same old tune about how Arum is the devil incarnate while Floyd is Jesus himself. A publication that’s notorious for being Floyd’s personal PR tool should really stop covering Pacquiao stories. Perhaps you should be covering how poor Floyd claims dehydration and jail’s lack of steak and lobsters.
Dont compare to delahoya mayweather that was a glorified sparring session neither was agressive and it was a close split decision judged correctly in my opinion.
Bradley v Manny was worlds apart from that fight. Manny outlanded showed better defence very big reaction from Bradley when he was hit, bradleys percentage was really low compared to paquiao and even when they landed they were slaps not correct punches. we saw Bradleys knees give way many many times and Bradley was walking onto left hands throughout the fight. Money talks in Vegas and it spoke very loud, those guys were clearly bought thts all 3 of them
One thing which needs to clarify. it is hard for Pacquiao to do anything against this terrible mistakes. Pacquiao will be having a lot of enemies inside USA, this is a fight Pacquiao can´t do it alone. This dirty practise is happening in the United States for quite sometime and probably will also contradict Pacquiaos compassionate religious belief. Unless people who have influence and some kind of power in boxing sport who are willing to help Pacquiao and truly want some changes in boxing dirty business, maybe some changing might be possible. If nobody have the courage to assist him, this a fight Pacquiao can´t win.
Paquiao knows he was robbed hed rather face Marquez in Mexico than risk another bought fight in Vegas. I cant believe that the authorities are prepared to let the fans leave in droves and still will do nothing about it. Bradleys own fans have been saying that he won 4 rounds at most
PAQUIAO BROUGHT HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS TO VEGAS AND THIS IS HOW THEY REPAY HIM
Screw Vegas, Top Prank, NSAC. They’ve lost me and my buddies over this farce. Never again.
That includes PPV.
this pacman thing getting old i thought the fight was closer then people think get off pacmans nuts it seems one sided when they only show one side
The winner are those who bet in favor of Bradley. We can think that maybe the refferies, WBO, vegas commissions, and Arum conive each other to win millions by betting 100 million for example and won by 390 millions.
So they are the big winner that is why they cannot do anything to reverse the decision or even declare it as NO CONTEST.
Stop gambling and maybe fixing will also stop.
sorry to say this but pacquiao lost me. he has all the support of his promoter, politician, fans, almost everyone to make it right but he’s rather say just accept it??? sorry manny i used to be a big boxing fan but i just don’t get it. if boxing is not a sport and a show like WWE then i’ts fine. but it’s not! at least mayweather has the balls to stand for what he believes. i’m not a mayweather fan but this is something he has that pacquiao will not have. and i don’t buy your new angel boy persona. if you don’t have the killer instinct that every boxer should have, then it’s probably time to hang up the gloves. you had the chance to finish off Bradley and you know it but you didn’t. that’s not how the sport of boxing goes.
Biased decision by American judges towards a Filipino fighter. And ofcourse the Nevada State Commish–American ofcourse–won’t over turn it! To me they just pulled the plug to a man who was putting boxing in life support……….flatline…..beeeeeeppppppppp!!!!!!
if you are a boxer fighting in vegas you have to KO your opponent or impress the judge that you punch more, that you are the agressor even fighting backwards and you teach your opponent a boxing lesson….these are what the 3 blind mice saw in manny vs bradley fight…
down to its futile boxing sport, america regarded as the world’s biggest economy, its leaders are staging outrageously gross incapability sorting out the sport’s animals, what better we could expect to a global level. if you notice folks, this is the perpetual grass-root of the global crisis.
Bottom line is that anybody witha brain knows that Arum is behind this decsion. He wanted to show Manny who the boss is and who got him to become a superstar. Its all straight down hill for Manny now, next thing that comes out is all of Manny’s steroid abuse. Arum will do anything not to make the Mayweather fight..
This fight reminds me of the trial of OJsimpson.
You KNEW he was guilty and yet he was the winner.
So frustrating. Enough of boxing!!!!!
pacman made a sensitive comment on gay marriage that can gain momentum and affect future poll results that’s the reason why undue influence to some institutions in boxing takes place. smells politics to me
“a monumental travesty” .. lmao now that is an overstatement … oh shit i have to go .. the sky is falling.
I rewatched the fight with no sound and it was still not close.
Even in the 7th, a round all 3 judges gave to Bradley I see Pacman winning that round.
Pac dominated rounds 3-9. Every single one.
Rounds 1 and a 2 are close either way, and the last 3 rounds you can give to Bradley.
7 rounds to 5 AT best for Bradley.. but he got worked.
I have it 8 rounds to 4 personally for Pac.
Again even in the 7th round Bradley was hitting all glove, and Manny still got off the more effective clean power punches.
Edit: when I say 7 rounds to 5 at best for bradley I mean at best bradley won 5 rounds.
Sorry for any confusion.
Every one knows Pac dominates Bradley no matter how poor judge Ford justifies his decision. Flurries landing on gloves and arms can never be considered as agression much worse if gaining for points at that. No boxer should win a round by making wild flurries because the sporta is called BOXING not CHOREOGRAPHY
how did bradley win?he hits like a girl.pacquioa just ignore his power.he can’t kill a sick goat!