TOP 5 REASONS WHY THE PACQUIAO VS. BRADLEY CONTROVERSY BENEFITS BOB ARUM
Manny Pacquiao and Timothy Bradley in the ring, Floyd Mayweather in jail, the whole world in shock, Dana White in hysterics, and Bob Arum in the money. Saturday June 9th will go down in history as one of the most talked about decisions and biggest controversies in the history of boxing. I was shocked that the decision went the way it did, and yet, I was far from shocked that there was controversy surrounding it.
I have said for many, many years that when it comes to the mega-fight between Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao, the one man who has never wanted the fight is Bob Arum. The outcome of Pacquiao’s last fight surely suggests that even more. Forget about the world-wide war between the Pacquiao fans and the Mayweather fans that’s been going on for the past 3 years. Whatever corner you are in, the fact remains that Pacquiao was on the short end of a bad decision, which means a showdown with Mayweather may never happen now, or at the very least, has been pushed back for another year. Given that fact, Bob Arum must be rubbing his hands together with delight, and here are the top 5 reasons why.
1. Controversy Sells
For the moral high ground of a competitor and boxing fan, controversy like this absolutely stinks, but for businessmen, it is the ideal scenario. This “robbery” will be spoken about for many years to come. In the short term, it is a great promotional tool for any promoter to base a promotion on. Will there be a rematch? Absolutely! Will it sell? Absolutely! Will it generate more money than the first fight? ABSOLUTELY!
2. Alex Ariza’s Role
It has been well documented that Bob Arum and Alex Ariza do not see eye to eye, having very public arguments over a number of issues. Ariza’s role has been questioned in recent weeks by Roach, and in the past, Arum has made no secret about his disapproval of Ariza and his work. Isn’t it ironic that Bradley’s best work came at the end of the fight, where your conditioning really pushes you through to the end? Will Bob Arum use this fact to load up his gun and fire and accusation that Ariza did not prepare Pacquiao properly? Will he suggest that if Manny was in better shape, he could have closed the show in the last few rounds and made sure there was no doubt whatsoever in the eyes of the judges.
3. Top Rank’s Timothy Bradley Stock Has Risen
Rightly or wrongly, Timothy Bradley will be one of the most talked about boxers in the world for the immediate future. Of course, it will be with mixed reaction. Journalists have been desperately wanting to get a story from the man who beat the great Manny Pacquiao, espeically since the vast majorty of fans are referring to him as the man who robbed Manny Pacquiao. All publicity is good publicity, and with Bradley’s relatively low following thus far, this may set him up to embrace the “villain” role and increase his exposure to casual fans. In other words, Top Rank now has their future cash cow, who just so happens to be undefeated with one of the biggest scalps in boxing on his record, generating more money for Top Rank.
4. Marquez The “Money” Man
With it being reported recently that Marquez will indeed be the man standing across the ring from Pacquiao on November 10th, it looks like all the pieces of the puzzle are fitting together nicely for Arum. Manny Pacquiao, despite losing his title and getting an extra loss on his record, has recorded a moral victory because it was apparent to all but two men that Pacquiao won the fight. That means their’s no real immediate demand for a rematch, allowing Arum to convince Pacquiao that Marquez will be the much better option as far as finances are concerned.
5. Pacquiao’s Defeat Prevents the Mayweather Fight From Happening
This, to me, is obvious. I have never doubted that Manny Pacquiao wants the fight or that Floyd Mayweather wants the fight, but there is no question Bob Arum does not want this fight. The controversial ending to Pacquiao vs. Bradley all but ensures that the Mayweather vs. Pacquiao fight will not be happening any time soon. Don’t get me wrong, a rematch with Bradley is an option further on down the line, as I’m sure Pacquiao will want to avenge the defeat. With the decision going in Bradley’s favour, it gives Bob Arum yet another excuse to avoid putting Pacquiao in the ring with Mayweather. Pacquiao fans may say , “well, why would Arum be happy to see Pacquiao lose to avoid putting him in with Mayweather?” Well, quite simply, 91% of fans think that Pacquiao won that fight, so he gets to retain his dignity despite having to give up his title. In other words, Pacquiao gets the sympathy vote for the robbery. What’s going to damage your stock more? Losing a decision in a fight that you really won or losing in comprehensive fashion to an arch-rival after a 3-year battle? Come on, do the math! Obviously a resounding defeat against a guy [Mayweather] who your promoter really does not like and does not want to see earn big money is the worst possible scenario. If there is any intent in Arum’s head to make the fight, then delaying it as long as he possibly can until Floyd is 37/38 years old seems to be what he is doing in hopes that Mayweather will be a tad bit slower with relfexes that are shot.
Personal Business
People will accuse Arum of having an agenda, and maybe he does; make of it what you will. The fact remains, however, that Marquez vs. Pacquiao, Rios vs Abril, and Bradley vs. Pacquiao are fights that 1) featured Top Rank stars and 2) ended with controversial decisions. If you ask me, I’d say that there’s more to it. For the record, I really admired the way Pacquiao conducted himself after the fight. That is a credit to Manny Pacquiao as a man. Whether or not he has it in him to fly off the handle remains to be seen, but in this case, he surely would have been forgiven it he did do so. I would also like to point out to people that the while the decision was wrong, people should not be blaming Timothy Bradley. It wasn’t his fault, nor was it Pacquiao’s fault.
Arum has proven to be a very shrewd businessman and is thick-skinned. Although many of us do not agree with the way some of his business is done, Arum can maximize his profits with Bradley and Marquez around the Pacquiao name, calling it in as a job done. Even though majority of us will point to the fact that Arum is the major factor preventing the Mayweather/Pacquiao fight, Arum will be laughing all the way to the bank.
What are your views? Is there foul play? Does this end the Pacquiao vs. Mayweather showdown? What are your views on Marquez vs. Pacquiao IV? What’s next for Bradley? What are your feelings towards the judges and what do you suspect Arum’s true feelings are?
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Fully agree with you the blame lies away from the boxers who put on a great show.
I watched the fight on another channel not HBO and the commentators were impressed with Bradley and pointed out Pac was trying to steal rounds at the end of the round however they also pointed out that only one man was hurt during the fight!
Bradley had all the skills but never had the power to really put pac under pressure or come forward. Bradley stock definitely went up he showed he is a tough fighter with a great chin an work rate.
Bob Arum is a joke calling for an investigation when he most likely engineered the whole thing an was expecting the fight to be closer.
BOB ARUM, BRADLEY AND MANNY and the BOXING FANS are ALL VICTIM by 2 BLIND MICE?
THE QUESTION HERE IS WHAT NSAC WILL DO TO CORRECT the WRONG SCORING OF 2 BLIND MICE?
IS THE 2 BLIND MICE HAVE BAD DAY or IT WAS A FORM OF CORRUPTION with MONAY INVOLVED OR BRIBERY?
WHO IS BEHIND THE BOXING CORRUPTION? THE CRIME BOSS? OR MAFIA?
IS NSAC was UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF MAFIA OR CRIME BOSS?
is the CRIME BOSS AND MAFIA are LAUGHING ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK with all the BETS? MILLIONS or BILLION of $?
will FBI AND ATTY GEN WILL INVESTIGATE AND GIVE THE BELT BACK TO MANNY?
I am fan of boxing for many years and still prefer the sweet science over emerging alternatives such as mixed martial arts (MMA and UFC), however, the decision victory given to Bradley over Pacquiao last June 9,2012 dampened my enthusiasm and strengthened my belief that the sport is controlled by organized gambling syndicate/mafia. In connection with this, I would like to present a new and highly plausible explanation on why and more importantly, how the gambling syndicate manipulated the key players and pulled the strings on their “puppet show” to determine the outcome of the match.
1. Why was the fight rigged?
The organized gambling syndicate in boxing monitored the ongoing betting in connection with the fight in its vast network of betting stations – both legal and illegal- above ground and underground within the U.S. and around the world. Days before the fight, the betting figures could have soared to several hundred million dollars. For illustration purposes, we could say that approximately 10,000 bets were placed on Pacquiao by big time gamblers with an average bet of US$100,000 per bet for a total of US$1 Billion with an estimated return of about US$250Million in case of a Pacquiao win. Only around 1,000 big time bets averaging also US$100,000 on the other hand, were placed in favor of Bradley totaling US$100Million with a possible return of US$360 Million given a Bradley win. Given the huge amount of money to be earned, the gambling mafia of boxing decided to pull the strings to give Bradley the decision since they expected to earn US$1Billion from the Pacquiao bets and lose only around US$360Million to pay for the Bradley bets, thus generating a net earning of around US$640 Million- a gigantic amount that is hard to forego as it could even possibly surpass the combined potential earnings of broadcast networks, promotional companies, individual fighters and other beneficiaries of the proposed superfight between Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr.
2. How the fight was rigged/how were the key players manipulated?
The gambling syndicate deployed covert operatives to manipulate the key players individually/separately, notably- the three judges and most probably Pacquiao himself with a mix of misinformation, deception, bribe/pseudo-bribe and possibly, even threat.
2.1 Judges Ford and Ross. For the two judges who scored the bout in favor of Bradley, the operatives may have introduced themselves as members of an underground organization that loves boxing and seeks to keep the sport interesting and continually growing by trying to make bouts exciting and unpredictable and also ensure that new boxing superstars are continually produced. The operatives would (mis)inform the judges that they don’t care if either Pacquiao knocks out Bradley or vice-versa as both scenarios will bode well for the sport. A Pacquiao knock out will lead to a multi-million dollar showdown between Pacquiao and Mayweather, while a Bradley win by knockout or domination of Pacquiao will usher the rise of a new superstar and pave the way for a mouth-watering mega-million round robin among Pacquiao, Mayweather and Bradley. The operatives would tell the judges that their concern is if Pacquiao simply dominates Bradley as this will result to the latter being dismissed as a non-elite fighter and result to a dearth of boxing superstars and a decline of boxing once Pacquiao and Mayweather retire from the sport. The judges were then asked in the scenario of no knockout and domination of Bradley by Pacquiao to score the fight close but in favor of the former. This would not affect the outcome of the match as the two other judges would most likely score the bout in favor of Pacquiao. The “surprise” split decision would create some uncertainty and unpredictability in the sport and spur a continuing plot of controversies which could somehow translate to interest and excitement in boxing while at the same time sanitizing Bradley’s record in paper and “preserving” him as a future boxing superstar who could fill the void when Pacquiao and Mayweather leave the sport. The two judges were therefore tricked into believing that in the event of a no-knockout Pacquiao domination, they would only be playing a “mild” prank that would not alter the outcome of the match, but would help the sport sustain its momentum. On top of this sweet talk and deception, the judges may have also been bribed with six or seven digit figures and may have even been threatened by telling them that there is also a group that has invested millions to make Bradley the future boxing superstar, and that this group could possibly become hostile if their ends are not realized.
2.2 Judge Roth. The convincing on the judge that scored the bout close but in favor of Pacquiao followed the same pattern as discussed above for the two other judges except that the mild “prank” would involve scoring the bout close but in favor of Pacquiao in case the match turns out to be a Pacquiao domination but without a knockout.
2.3 Pacquiao. The gambling syndicate may also have employed a mix of deception, misinformation and possibly pseudo bribe, or even threat that had the pound for pound superstar fall victim and participate in the fix. An operative from the syndicate may have introduced himself/herself to Pacquiao as a member of a behind the scenes organization that seeks to promote the continued growth of boxing by ensuring the emergence of future boxing stars that would carry the torch when both him and Mayweather leave the sport. The operatives may have convinced Pacquiao that Bradley is a kind, humble person and a loving family oriented guy who has a similar rag to riches story and could therefore fill in the void when the pound for pound king retires from the sport. Knocking Bradley out will be detrimental to boxing as it will strike out from elite status a possible candidate superstar who could replace Pacquiao. It will curb the momentum of the sport by derailing Bradley’s rise and interfere with the sustaining plot of good vs. evil superstar matchups that had time and again proven to give the sport a boost. Pacquiao may have been asked by the (gambling syndicate) operative to just show his superiority and settle for a victory on points and also not to completely overwhelm Bradley. The deception of not going for a knockout for the future “good” of the sport may have been mixed with a pseudo bribe whereby Pacquiao may have been offered perhaps a few million dollars to be donated to his favorite charity or church organization or to finance projects for his congressional district in case he did not go for the kill or knockout. The operative may or may not have tossed in or hinted some form of threat by telling Pacquiao that there is a group that has invested millions for Bradley to be the future boxing superstar and they would likely be hostile in case the latter was knocked out.
Pacquiao may have been deceived by this manipulation and therefore took it easy on Bradley. This can be observed may times during the match. While Pacquiao has been known to dish out a lot of 4 or 5 punch combinations during matches in his entire career, these salvos were sparingly thrown during the match with Bradley. It is also hard to believe that while Bradley injured his ankle and could not fight one hundred percent during most of the match, the pound for pound king still could not finish him. In fact, there were several awkward instances in the fight when Bradley seemed to have lost his footing perhaps due to the injury and had his arms down at the same time, and because of the difficulty of regaining his footing due to the injury, seemed to have frozen for a moment like a sitting duck standing close to and within punching range of Pacquiao, but the latter did not try to throw even a single punch. Also several slow motion clips showed that when Pacquiao fired a combination and connects with a punch that throws Bradley offguard and thus more vulnerable to follow ups, the succeeding punches often miss their mark, possibly thrown by Pacquiao with the intention to miss or overshoot the target. Pacquiao seems to have willingly held off his offense in numerous occasions during the fight.
3. Bob Arum. Although I know that Bob Arum is one of the power players of the sport who tries to exert his influence so that things (e.g. money) will play (flow) out in his favor, I cannot say if he was party to the manipulations or if he had prior knowledge of what happened . He may or may not, but I pity him for being tagged outright by some as brains of the fiasco.
4. To sum up, the outcome of the fight was cleverly manipulated by the powers that be in boxing. The three judges and perhaps even Pacquiao were individually coaxed, cajoled and tricked into believing that they would only fight or do things a “little different” without really altering the outcome of the match in order to sustain the momentum of boxing. The three had no idea that they were to become puppets in an organized and cleverly orchestrated plot to manipulate the outcome of the match. Pacquiao knew that he was winning during the match but did not know that the judges had been bought. The individual judges on the other hand, thought that each of them were the only one to give a deviant score card which would not alter the outcome of the match. Six or seven digit bribes for the judges and pseudo bribes for Pacquiao in the form of donation to the boxer’s favorite charity, church organization or project for his congressional district, and some degree of threat may have been tossed in the mix to effect the convincing of the key players. Bradley was never part of the fix.
5. Other high profile matches and how they were possibly rigged.
Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Victor Ortiz. Mayweather, possibly in partnership with Golden Boy Promotions could have likely rigged the fight. Victor Ortiz may have been reminded that he should be thankful and gratefully indebted to the organizers for awarding him the fight with the seven digit purse guarantee. Ortiz may have been told “Welcome to the big league son. It is time for you to know that at the highest level of boxing some matches are rigged to maximize the earnings and sustain the momentum of the sport.” A Mayweather defeat (against Ortiz) will derail the momentum of boxing and dampen the enormous earning potential of a Pacquiao-Mayweather showdown. Participating in the fix would be good for boxing and also for Ortiz who possibly could have been offered additional million dollar bonus which could be recouped by the perpetrators Mayweather/ and GBP by betting on the undefeated superstar. The script will not make Ortiz look bad, furthermore GBP will manage his career well, get him into good fights and make him the next boxing superstar after Pacquiao and Mayweather retire from the sport. With the referee bought to follow the script, Mayweather Jr. was so sure of the outcome and also of Ortiz’s complicity that he had been so arrogant and cocky to hold the latter (Ortiz) by the neck during the stare down session of the official weigh-in for the bout. Mayweather must have in mind that “I can hold and even choke you by the neck because I will be paying you big and you are my puppet.” Ortiz, given the bonus obliged to be the puppet and swallowed his pride by allowing the chokehold hang for quite some time. Mayweather in fact made a pronouncement in one of his interviews that at the highest level, boxing is no longer real anymore.
Dela Hoya vs. Trinidad. Golden Boy Promotions may have approached Trinidad Camp to make the fight competitive in the first nine or ten rounds without anyone going for a knockout. This will make the fight close and pave the way for a possible mega-million dollar rematch or even trilogy. Then De la Hoya ran the few remaining rounds to avoid being knocked out.
Dela Hoya vs. Mayweather. The two camps could have agreed to make the first eight to ten rounds close and competitive without anyone going for a knockout for the same reason as the Dela Hoya vs. Trinidad match up. Mayweather however, was not a power puncher so Dela Hoya did not have to run but only exercised caution during the last few rounds.
Mosely vs. Alvarez. The fight was rigged. GBP convinced Mosely to take it easy on Alvarez so that boxing will sustain its momentum with the continued rise of a new darling superstar or future golden boy. Mosely complied with the “noble” intention of giving back to ensure the continued “growth” of the business side of the sport which he so dearly love, notwithstanding that he would in effect be thrashing its very essence of competition. You can observe that during the match with Alvarez, Mosely did not throw even a few powerful over hand rights which had been the trademark of his career. During the early going, Mosely threw a lot of short and slow punches which Alvarez could not even fend off or avoid. The reflex of the upstart was so slow and inexperienced that the whole match, Mosely minimized or did not throw if at all, his vaunted over hand right. A lot of the punches Mosely threw were wide or preceded by cocking the arm so they can be telegraphed or during the few times they were thrown fast, the punches were deliberately made to overshoot the target. Alvarez fought valiantly but did not know that his opponent was holding off his offense.
Pacquiao vs. Margarito. Pacquiao let Margarito off the hook in the last two rounds because of his compassion, and also because he understands the business side of boxing. Maragarito who was in the same promotional outfit was at that time, being groomed for a multi-million dollar grudge match with Cotto.
6. Given these possibilities, I hope the boxing community come together to introduce reforms that will prevent these types of manipulations in order to restore and elevate the sport to its former glory.
Agreed! It keeps Floyd away from Manny, and Bob gets to earn even more money with the rematch. Bob always wins $$$.
Great write up but one thing was overlooked. Manny’s agreement with Top Rank will be coming to an end in 2013. If Bob can delay the Bradley fight it makes a nice bargaining chip for new PAC fights beyond his original retirement/ realease from indentured servitude date. With a loss to Marquez he will have three potential cash cows to work with. If Manny does leave TR this will minimize the earnings of everyone who benefits from a PAC/ May showdown and also prevents the fight from happening because PAC will not accept less than 50/50. Pure evil genius from the man we love to hate.
Yes, I agree.
Reason I did not include this as It is being saved for a separate article.
Good Shout.
Any one looking for benefits to Arum need not look no further than Manny. Before the fight Manny was not interested in fighting Marquez and looking to retire from boxing a man of God. Today he is chasing his title and willing to fight Marquez to get to it. No reason for a fix huh?
Could be right Kelvin. Will be interesting.
Kind Regards
Scott Smith
arum is putting a big stain in boxing he can lie.to anybody
Unless NSAC reverses decision or declare as “No Contest” the Pacquiao-Bradley fight, then fight fans should:
1. Boycott Pacquaio-Bradley rematch
2. Boycott Boxing in Nevada & Las Vegas (Satan’s hometown on Earth)
3. Boycott Reid’s reelection in Nevada
4. Boycott Pacquiao’s senatorial & presidential bids
5. Boycott any Top Rank Boxing matches
They are all part of the “Boxing Conspiracy/Robbery of the Century”.
What kind of crap were these author thinking?
Bob being the guy labeled greedy doesnt want a Floyd fight? And he made Pacquiao lose? What kind of nuts do these guys conspiracy insanity theory theyre thinking?
Heres the thing:
Bob + greedy = more money
Floyd vs Pacquiao = most money
Pacquiao = Bob will let him lose to Bradley bcz he doesnt want most of the money he will get from Floyd Pacquiao fight? Common!!!!
You are plainly insane!
You really do not understand do you!
Arum is a smart business man!
You say Floyd vs Pacquiao = most money!
Where has that been questioned?
He is preventing the fight…..because he has the opportunity to put Pacquiao in with Marquez and make a ton of money, and then Bradley (because a can of worms has been open) in the mean time waiting for the aging Floyd Mayweather to get to the point where he is no longer as sharp as he was.
Yes You will probably say “Cotto hit him a lot” Floyd fought Cotto in a different style, a more come forward, stand in the pocket style, he wouldn’t fight Manny like that.
You mention GREEDY! where was the word GREEDY MENTIONED. read it again and you will see it is referred to as getting more money for Top Rank, which from a business man’s point of view is good business….however from a fan’s point of view it is not what we all want.
Where was there allegations of CONSPIRACY THEORY. The article states TOP 5 REASONS WHY CONTROVERSY BENEFITS ARUM. I can name 5 reasons why winning the lottery benefits me, does not mean I fixed it. at no point does it say Arum fixed this… it says. what ever the situation, it benefits Arum greatly.
Where does it say. he made Pacquiao lose. It is indicating, that despite his cash cow being beaten he has kind of fell on his feet if it was all legit.
Please read what is written before getting angry!
Thanks for reading.
Kind Regards
fuck you bob arum
Im a Pacfan & I dont even like a Pac rematch with Bradley cuz it will further add insult to our intelligence. c’mon we’re all boxing afficionados. A spade is a spade. Pacquiao will kill the kid & Arum wants the money for it!
Pacquiao, must be retired After the controversial loss to bradly,bob arum is the master mind of this controversial. he called nevada for investigate the fight but its a big f===king liar. many boxing fans digrace and boycot the boxing.
#5,I agree this time that Arum is the one avoiding the Pacman-Mayweather showdown.Arum remotely controlled the show within his stable and eats money all alone.This Thief has no moral concern in boxing except money to lead to his pocket.He doesn’t care about the spirit and the legacy of the sport.Worse lots of lost bets can’t be returned because of Arum’s influence on the sick Judges that helped Arum fixed the fight.
good response. Appreciate the time.
To the boxing analyst, writers, commentators and followers, hahaha this is my game, arum’s gameplan sells. Critic all u want, analyze all you want, write all u want, that’s what i want. Anyway another big event will happen again, and hmmmm $$$. Soon and i’m sure you all will watch.
Accusing Arum of unmitigated greed and then arguing that he is the one preventing the Mayweather fight from happening is as as ridiculous as it is illogical.
Let me break it down in straight business.
If Manny fights another fight with Bradley and sells another, let’s say, 900k PPV and draws 9 million at the gate and JMM sells 1.5 million and 9 million at the gate, Manny makes another 50 million plus for both fights, Bradley gets a great payday and so does JMM.
Arum of course gets his percentageand does very nicely.
If however, Pacquiao and Mayweather meet and achive the projected number of 200 million, Arum’s cut of the proceeds of ONE fight is greater than the sum f the other two.
And…there is almost an inevitable rematch to be made, thus more money yet.
So what does a greedy man do? It’s obvious. He does exactly what he has been doing. He pursues the one fight that makes him and his fighter the most money possible.
And that….is precisely what Arum and his team have been trying to do for now three years. Make the fight.
There is one man who does not want to throw the dice and make this fight, the now jailed and every elusive Floyd Mayweather. His ‘negotitation’, his offer of 40 million dollars for a buyout in a projected 200 million venture was designed for one reason:
To ensure that Manny would reject it.
Greed…is good….and Arum’s greed would have made this fight over any three fights at any time. To believe otherwise is folly
Firstly thank you for replying.
Arum is a smart business man!
You say Floyd vs Pacquiao = most money!
Where has that been questioned?
He is preventing the fight…..because he has the opportunity to put Pacquiao in with Marquez and make a ton of money, and then Bradley (because a can of worms has been open) in the mean time waiting for the aging Floyd Mayweather to get to the point where he is no longer as sharp as he was.
Yes You will probably say “Cotto hit him a lot” Floyd fought Cotto in a different style, a more come forward, stand in the pocket style, he wouldn’t fight Manny like that.
You mention GREEDY! where was the word GREEDY MENTIONED. read it again and you will see it is referred to as getting more money for Top Rank, which from a business man’s point of view is good business….however from a fan’s point of view it is not what we all want.
Where was there allegations of CONSPIRACY THEORY. The article states TOP 5 REASONS WHY CONTROVERSY BENEFITS ARUM. I can name 5 reasons why winning the lottery benefits me, does not mean I fixed it. at no point does it say Arum fixed this… it says. what ever the situation, it benefits Arum greatly. It was left as a question to hear people’s views, as you seem an intelligent boxing fan, you will know Arum has been accused by a lot of people. so interested to hear people’s views. My view remains sat on the fence regarding the situation BUT do see Arum benefiting more than most from this course of events. Can you tell me anybody else that has benefited as greatly from this course of events more than Arum?
The front that he put on was kind of baffling….. going over and cheering all happy when Bradley won, claiming that Bradley said he felt he lost (which Bradley as you probably know has accused him of lying), then suddenly switching to anger about the decision. My point is….whether he has fixed it, like people have claimed, or whether it is a coincidence, he has fell on his feet, and regardless of my opinion, or your opinion of Arum he is using what he has to make good business for himself, even if it is not good business for the majority of the boxing world.
Is it a coincidence, that the Pac v Brad went the wrong way, Marquez v Pac went the wrong way with Floyd waiting in the wings, on top of that Rios (which was the biggest robbery of the three mentioned), the fact Chavez ducked a drugs test, then refused to have his gloves weighed, then gave his sample before the Lee fight instead of after…..is that not suspicious….it may be a happy coincidence, but especially with certain incidents mentioned, why make it an issue if it is not an issue.
Kind regards
Scott Smith
Close…but your obvious bias towards Floyd renders your suspicions silly. Here’s what went down. The Floyd fight will never happen because of one man: FLOYD! What did Floyd insist on when speaking to Pacquiao directly? No PPV money? First drug testing, now money. FLOYD DOES NOT WANT THE FIGHT!!!
However, everybody else wants the fight and people are pissed at seeing all these other fights except the big one. So, what does Arum do? He creates a situation where people are not so focussed on the Mayweather fight anymore. Suddenly, Pacquiao has a lot of unfinished business to take care of. His “loss” makes people think he’s not quite ready for Floyd. He is now preoccupied with Bradley & Marquez for the next year, maybe more if any of those fights turn out to be competitive.
Thus, Arum’s master stroke is to create interesting options for Pacquiao BECAUSE of Floyd’s refusal to fight! Why are intelligent people not seeing the Floyd situation as it is? Makes you lack credibility!
Lack credibility? How about you go down the list of pundits that were Pacquiao nuthuggers that suddenly switched their views in November.
If me and you were signed to fight…..and You said to me I want you to do a random drug test…..and I said no….what would you think? Don’t try and kid me and say you would not be suspicious…..then you say 24 days…..then after a while you say 14 days…..then after months and months you say up to the fight not random, then you suddenly after 2 years agree to random….you would not be suspicious……these guys in boxing are always looking for a way to beat the system, being put in a situation where they have to think on the spot obviously caught them out.
Pacquiao has unfinished business LOL come on, Marquez, what for a 4th time…so he can finally beat Marquez who will be 39 and close the chapter, that chapter has been open for 5 years, so if Pacquiao wins this one, what does it prove, that he beat an older Marquez, but lost two of the first three, and lucky to have one amazing round in a fight where he got outboxed…. You not think it has been setup for him to have unfinished business with Bradley?
You talk about the money situation…..Pacquiao and his camp came out and said the following things:
(leading up to Margarito fight: we have a time clock on for Floyd to answer, despite Floyd stating clearly, that he would not be fighting during that year because of the situation with Roger and himself)……then when Floyd said May 5th…..Arum says we do not negotiate through the media…..business do not work like that where we are given a date to answer….ERMMMM DID HE NOT JUST DO THE SAME THING WITH MARGARITO?
When Floyd said May 5….Arum said no Manny won’t be ready because of a cut….(despite him putting an injured Mosley in the ring, despite him rushing Margarito back from a serious injury) Vitali had over 60 stitches after loss to Lewis and he was back out there within 3 months, and Pacquiao needs 6 months for around 30 stitches? LOL ok.
Then when Floyd got sentenced, Arum come out and said…..we will take the May 5 date….(knowing Floyd can’t, but waittttttt, I thought Manny couldn’t make it? LOL…..then when Floyd changed his sentence, all of a sudden he can’t make it again, for the cut, and for the stadium.
so Arum claims Manny can sell out any stadium, and he wanted to build a stadium (despite not selling out the Bradley fight)…he claimed stadium would not be ready for May 5 ( 6 months after the negotiations)….then claimed ” we will do it in November…..let me ask you something….where is this stadium then?if Manny can sell out anywhere, and 6 months is not long enough to build a stadium, it is now June, why has this stadium not been built if he was serious about it, after all Manny can sell everywhere can’t he, so if Floyd didn’t happen, what has he lost, what if Pacquiao got the decision against Bradley, and Floyd was ready, what would happen then, because the stadium is hardly going to be ready in 5 months is it if it can’t be ready in 6 months.
Did they not come out and say “Pacquiao will take smaller purse” he got offered $40m which is bigger than he has ever took home. Floyd has called their bluff on a lot of things…..you say credibility, PLEASE, give me a break, this garbage about unfinished business. if Pacquiao won the fights, why is it unfinished business.
Pacquiao accepts Mayweather’s $40M offer and how much Mayweather pockets? $150M? Sounds like a great deal! If you’re the big name and suddenly this big mouth joe wants you to do a drug test that is outside the norm for a fight, would you go for it? First thing I say is: who are you to dictate terms to ME? Anyway, Pacquiao gave in to that demand and what happens next? He has to give in to Mayweather’s purse demand. Then after that, what next? Pacquiao must wear panties in the ring???? Floyd has absolutely no intention of stepping in a ring with Pacquiao!
the big name…when has pacquiao ever been a bigger draw than Floyd? LOL
He accepted the demands? what after 2 years….after saying 24,14, then no random but up to fight…..don’t even deny you would be suspicious if a guy said that.
He said he would take smaller purse. Arum and Floyd have a war against each other why is Floyd going to allow Arum all that money? and why is Arum going to do the same to Floyd. Cotto left Arum and straight away the fight was made.
Scott maybe part of Arum’s distaste for the Mayweather and PAC fight is Manny is signed to both GB an TR. Remember the court ruling after Pac took GB’s money. I think this the reason manny is strictly in house right now. Arum will lose in the transaction and make less money than Golden Boy. Assuming Mayweather partners with GB, Oscar’s group would get 3/4 of the promotional percentages. TR only gets 1/4. That is why the fight is not as lucrative. Even if it is his even money, pride will not let him lose in the business transaction to GB and Floyd. Plus in the long-term the mystique. of the fight makes him more money. Arum has generated more money off of the idea of the fight than any other promoter. Why would he end it by having the fight. Let me know if I am off base here.
I agree with everything you say there.
Arum is constantly looking at a way where he can keep Floyd out the money. Obviously Floyd will make money else where, but Arum has that vendetta against Floyd where he does not want Floyd taking part of the money. T/R vs T/R leaves Bob in the money, whilst being in control of the destiny of both fighters.
Arums greed is killing boxing for many people. He is the ONLY reason we have not seen Mayweather vs Manny. Not only that but many other fights that he chooses not to co-promote with other promoters(mainly golden boy). All I hear from people is “Manny doesnt want to fight” or “Floyd doesnt want the fight” When in reality the only person to blame is Bob Arum. People really need to start holding the guy accountable for this stuff.
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Respect floyds skill, he can go down as one of the best fetghirs this decade if not the best, but there’s always another young rare breed right around the corner, hungry newcomer that comes out every 20-30 yrs like Robinson,Ali,Tyson,Hagler,Sanchez,Roy Jones etc,Sure floyd’s skilled he’s got a good record against good fetghirs.But how Many great fetghirs did he really face?Not many Oscar was good but not elite when floyd fought him.Being great these days doesn’t mean much.
Boxing fans are so upset to bob arum, specialy the filipino all over the world, to bob arum, dont try to visit in the philippines maybe they will hang you in the tree. nobody will watch the rematch with bradly or marquez, just tell to your boy to retire help more poor filipino in the philippines…
ALL BOXING FANS BOYCOTT BOXING FOR THE NEXT 10 YEAR WHEN BOB ARUM AND WBO ARE RETIRE IN BOXING.
Thanks for hating me guys. By the way you wanna know why boxing is called ‘sweet science’, i’m (bob arummm) the sugar in it! I know you hate sugar, but you like it when it’s served. I’m preparing another big sweet event soon, i know you say for now you’ll abstain, but when it is served, you will buy irresistibly. Diabetes can never be cure!
@ 16, your right 100% bob arum dont like the pacquiao vs mayweather history fight, all filipino must hate bob arum.